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this hope radio for the masses headline

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of the July 8 1947 the Army Air Force

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has announced that applying their

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toughest found and is now in the

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possession of the army the game is

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rigged change the game game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and K GRA

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I need your help to get to a year 1985

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to black with Jimmy judge on the game

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change in that word

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good evening

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this spoke radio

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for Masse's you do it

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it's Monday that's right

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what an amazing weekend we had in our

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community

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so September 17 2018 264 days into the

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new year just 101 days left I'd like to

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welcome everybody listening all around

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle

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and I would I'd like to welcome

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east and west north and south far and

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this is fade to black your kjc are the

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game changer Network and K GRA the

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you do and I hope

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you had a great weekend Rita and I went

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down to San Diego literally I posted one

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so we're here we're back we've got an

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amazing week lined up here on fade to

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black tonight Linda Moulton Howe is here

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to discuss the recent closing of the

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National Solar Observatory by the FBI

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with ransom Godwin over the weekend who

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courageously went up onto the grounds

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and the compound up there and shot of

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some video and so I was able to reach

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out to ransom and the interview was

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amazing we've got that up and you can go

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and check that out so that happened over

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the weekend and I think we posted the

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Friday right yeah I did that on Friday

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amazing weekend and Linda has been doing

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her coverage on it so she is here and we

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will be talking about that at the bottom

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of the hour tomorrow night right here on

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Freeman is here last week Rita and I

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went and watched Don peyote and if you

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haven't seen Don peyote maybe after the

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show tonight go and watch Don peyote

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watch the movie Freeman is just he's

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really good and he downplayed his role

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in the film he's he's excellent he's in

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a bunch of scenes there so anyway we

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watched that last week and had nothing

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to do with Freeman being on the show

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isn't that weird how synchronicity works

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but tomorrow night Freeman fly Freeman

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now he just goes by one one name Freeman

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will be with us and then Wednesday night

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it's been a while

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Clifford stone is back and he's here to

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talk about disclosure and it may not be

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what you think and he's got some

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documents we're gonna do all of that and

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here with there's no more fake newsroom

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social media sites over the weekend and

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today with all of this National Solar

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the social media the best that I could

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that you can think everybody was

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covering it luckily not only do we have

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people that were were there on location

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broken to me from somebody that was up

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Wednesday night but a friend of ours and

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a friend of yours had an airplane crash

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in his backyard today yeah literally and

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things are a little bit hectic right now

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a little bit dramatic but we will have I

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don't want to say what it is I just want

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him to have his privacy right now but

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he's gonna be on with us maybe tomorrow

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night to talk about that pretty

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incredible to see what he went through

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so that'll be tomorrow night

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anyway follow us on Twitter at J Church

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throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm okay breaking news the

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National Solar Observatory reopened

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today with a statement released from

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aura about the FBI evacuation I posted

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the statement today over at on stellar

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on stellar calm you can go and read the

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full statement over there I mentioned

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earlier I interviewed ransom Godwin who

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shot the video of the empty compound I

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spoke with him earlier today and he said

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as of last night they made this

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announcement yesterday this statement

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that they were gonna reopen they went

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and the entire site was still empty and

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no security there at all they sent me

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some drone footage I didn't know that

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there was that many houses up there of

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the empty streets pretty much still the

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same it's a ghost town but they did

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reopen today and a security guard up

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Linda is going to have some more

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information on that shortly other

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breaking news coca-cola coca-cola is

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that's right coke said in a statement

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today that it is closely watching the

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growth of CBD right you know the non

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Cola's and talks with Aurora cannabis a

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in the Canadian cannabis company canopy

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growth CBD marijuana all of it is here

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it's pretty crazy isn't it it's pretty

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moving forward we will have some more

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information over the next couple of days

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but the area 52 night-vision binoculars

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calling them deep blue the Jimmy Church

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model is going to be available now what

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when and where just stay tuned with us

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over the next week or so maybe about two

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weeks we will have all the information

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up that you need but I'm very very

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excited I can't get into any other

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details than that skip this show

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cracking our dead guys birthday today is

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John Ritter 1948 to 2003 yeah there was

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Three's Company and I get that but he

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also made the greatest UFO documentary

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film ever that's right

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real men and he made that back in 1987

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and if you haven't seen that movie real

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men with Jim Belushi and John Ritter

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right there in 1987 on September 11th

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strangely enough 2003 he started having

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our problems and he was rehearsing right

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he began sweating vomiting chest pains

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he was taken across the street to the

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in Burbank by coincidence the same

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hospital where he was born and both of

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by coincidence and that's where he was

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born physicians misdiagnosed Ritter

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he diagnose a diagnosed ritter with

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the aorta that grows he died during

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surgery to repair it six days before his

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55th birthday on this day in history

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OT D 1976 NASA publicly unveils for the

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first time the space shuttle that's

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right the Space Shuttle enterprise on

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this day in 1976 Fader fact the word

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because it derives from ancient Greek

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wear oxy means sharp and morose which

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means stupid think about that the next

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trying to sound smart think about that

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now also on this day in history it's a

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big day that's right

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bringing on Kurtis Don Vito the lead

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singer of snoo because Kurtis today your

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new album is released and I'm holding it

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up to the cameras right there how you

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doing yes it is I'm holding it up and

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there it is it's amazing I've had it for

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a little bit I got the sneak preview

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yeah it's a great CD man thanks alright

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yes

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where can every got some nerve you've

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got some nerve I get some real

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statements there with that one

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know what working every light of

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everything oxymoronic yeah oh that's

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funny that's funny

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where can everybody go and get it I've

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got mine working everybody go and get

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theirs

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well you can go to our websites new

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ucomm or you go to snus or calm where

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you find it iTunes and Amazon are you

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like anywhere now my the opening track

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on this you are freaking me out is is

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right there

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but the other tracks on this like holy

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hell which is is really good do you have

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a favorite track right now do you go

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back and listen to to stuff after you do

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it yeah you know we definitely go back

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and make sure that we definitely want to

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put it up in the world so yeah you know

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I can't say which one every day it's a

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different one it's like uh you know it's

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you're freaking me out

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well maybe it's a settling queen maybe

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it's you know it's it spinning roulette

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wheel yeah yeah I'm with you on that and

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it's it's classics new but one of the

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things that I love about you guys and

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you and I have talked about this you

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guys are all about the rock and roll

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right you're about to get our well you

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know that's what I'm saying and this

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weekend Curtis Reed and I we went out of

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town and we relaxed and we were

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listening to music and we were hanging

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out with some friends and one of the

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things that we talked about is I'm not

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so sure if kids today understand what

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it's like to emotionally freak out when

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you see a band perform live or when you

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you know when you hear an album that was

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a band in the studio playing as a band

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I'm not taking away from the electronic

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yeah that's what you know that human

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element that's being stripped away from

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music everything's got to be perfect now

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you know and it's all it's all digitally

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mixed and and manipulated and moved

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around in the computer so that every

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beat is exactly perfect and and I can

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appreciate you know that but

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human element is stripped away and you

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know as musicians you know the music

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breeze you listen to some of it you know

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some of a lot of live stuff that's still

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going on and it's not dead right right

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when you listen to the older stuff it's

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like you know it's not perfect computer

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rhythms it's it moves and it takes you

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along for a ride you know and your

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breathe just like you do I love this

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stuff so you know what we're recording

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yeah we don't play any tricks we get in

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and replayed live you know well as a

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singer when I listen to this and I and I

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hear the way that you do that do you do

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you go in and pick your stuff apart and

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like replace words or replace syllables

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or do you use sing entire lines and just

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try to get everything there because of

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the feeling well what we usually do is

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is I'll do at least three days just I'll

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do it the way it was written then I'll

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do it another way and I'll change a few

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things just to see you know and then

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I'll listen to that and I'll go okay let

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me try this and then we'll listen to

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everything down and go yeah let's go

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back to the original way we what happens

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but sometimes you strike gold and you

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know so you get in there and you utilize

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the studio for what it is you know you

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got the ability to do multiple takes so

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we go for it well and see I think that's

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one of the tools that people have today

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is wall Pro Tools and in digital editing

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and now it has become a crutch that's so

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many

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yeah they don't go and learn the whole

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song they're not even worried about that

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they know that they can go in and do a

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gazillion takes and then turn around and

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just piece all of this stuff together

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and then use a also tune right yeah and

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then you don't have to be great thing

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it's just you know on to no you're

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perfect that's right and and so they

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don't they don't practice anymore

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they're not even going to the studio

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prepared

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the studio is a place for them to just

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go and assemble and not necessarily

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perform it

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it's a producer's game they just bring

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where they want to be the face and look

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who's there pretty much you know that's

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why popular stuff yeah it's the same

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because there's like their to produce

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this and you see all of that and they're

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writing the song I saw this was last

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year I think it was read a corrected me

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and it was Beyonce

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so Beyonce releases this song last year

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and that had all of like eight words in

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the entire song right eighth word 55 0

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50 producers really 5050 I don't know

363
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what you have to do today to get your

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name on somebody's track as a producer

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you know I know I know

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oh you know begs the question does she

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need that much help just I mean I don't

368
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want to be critical you know I know the

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answers get a lot of fans but did she

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leave that my child well I guess the

371
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periods and the apostrophes and the

372
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commas all deputies and credits right

373
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they all get producer credits so now

374
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what are you guys touring what what's

375
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the plans yeah and a couple of months

376
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we're gonna be heading to the UK and

377
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we're gonna do a trek around there

378
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you're gonna and everything booked ready

379
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to go yeah well there's this tell adding

380
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dates so you know well no well no we're

381
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we get there yeah yeah I know how that

382
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can go

383
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Graham bonnet tweeted out today that he

384
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just got back from his three or four

385
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weeks over in the UK and he's

386
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immediately

387
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yeah he's heading over to Japan to play

388
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with Michael Schenker and MSG yeah yeah

389
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I know those guys are back together yeah

390
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well yeah well you know we're playing

391
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Michael shaker weird festival or played

392
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in Wales shakers playing I wonder if

393
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Graham's gonna be there yeah Wow

394
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wouldn't that be great yeah you know

395
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grandma if I run into grandma I'll

396
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mention you well I I reached out to him

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today

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which reminds me okay I wanna I want to

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back up I remember we were talking about

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talking about being prepared in the

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studio today right now it's this Pro

402
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Tools world and and nobody rehearse --is

403
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but there are there were times when I

404
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would go into a studio and the singers

405
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well or the band that's practiced and

406
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rehearsed they go when they get their

407
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stuff done it's a job and and they

408
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prepare and they write and singers that

409
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prepare you can tell they come in they

410
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know what they want to do and I remember

411
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Ronnie Dio cutting these tracks and I'm

412
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listening to them from you know outside

413
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of the studio door just blasting through

414
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like the whole song and going okay let's

415
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play the act I'm gonna double a couple

416
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of tracks let's go through okay boom

417
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boom boom all in order right he's

418
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doubling these parts he wants to double

419
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Kara's go back loose harmonies and you

420
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:40,540
know so the song is five minutes long he

421
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was done I mean he was done with

422
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everything in like 30 minutes

423
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I remember him walking out I might be

424
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exaggerating it might have been thirty

425
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two minutes but he comes he comes out of

426
00:22:01,710 --> 00:21:58,540
the studio he goes let's have dinner I

427
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was like you know he's there to work

428
00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:04,750
right to get it done oh yeah you could

429
00:22:11,010 --> 00:22:07,720
tell yeah is that guy that guy's always

430
00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:11,020
nailed it you know that he put the

431
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worked in and all the effort it took to

432
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:15,730
be that great well that's the way I hear

433
00:22:20,539 --> 00:22:18,310
it from you on this record do you work

434
00:22:23,419 --> 00:22:20,549
the same way

435
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:23,429
well yeah I mean how else you gonna be

436
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:24,479
able to nail it

437
00:22:27,649 --> 00:22:26,129
you know I mean I don't want to go in

438
00:22:31,489 --> 00:22:27,659
there waste anybody's time when we're

439
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recording right you know I mean I get in

440
00:22:35,899 --> 00:22:33,029
there you know and what we what we

441
00:22:38,930 --> 00:22:35,909
usually do is you know the whole band

442
00:22:41,209 --> 00:22:38,940
will be in there for basic tracks we'll

443
00:22:42,649 --> 00:22:41,219
lay it down live and then we'll come in

444
00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:42,659
after that you know we'll do some

445
00:22:47,299 --> 00:22:45,059
overlays and and thanks and eventually

446
00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:47,309
I'll get to do my real vocal track at

447
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:48,899
that point it's what's called scratch

448
00:22:56,329 --> 00:22:51,450
vocal and if those guys want to run down

449
00:22:59,259 --> 00:22:56,339
a song ten times you know I'm singing

450
00:23:03,619 --> 00:22:59,269
the whole time it's it's so true because

451
00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:03,629
the the other side for me is when I

452
00:23:10,579 --> 00:23:08,190
watch your live videos and you guys are

453
00:23:14,419 --> 00:23:10,589
there we hurt I mean from the from the

454
00:23:17,149 --> 00:23:14,429
word go you guys live are as impressive

455
00:23:19,519 --> 00:23:17,159
as what the albums are which says to me

456
00:23:22,249 --> 00:23:19,529
but you guys went in cut these albums

457
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:22,259
ready to go the songs were ready to go

458
00:23:28,399 --> 00:23:25,200
and when you're going out live you hear

459
00:23:30,289 --> 00:23:28,409
that you hear that the band is there for

460
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,299
the audience and they're they're there

461
00:23:34,489 --> 00:23:32,159
to impress and that's that's what I get

462
00:23:36,879 --> 00:23:34,499
out of snoo and I'm not I'm not joking

463
00:23:39,529 --> 00:23:36,889
around about this well thank you it's

464
00:23:42,139 --> 00:23:39,539
it's nice to hear I appreciate that I

465
00:23:44,899 --> 00:23:42,149
got you're right I mean we definitely

466
00:23:48,199 --> 00:23:44,909
you know want to give everything we have

467
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to the audience I mean we do it for

468
00:23:53,089 --> 00:23:50,429
ourselves we love it but you know what

469
00:23:56,239 --> 00:23:53,099
when they're feeling it then we feel it

470
00:23:59,149 --> 00:23:56,249
twice as much so we're giving it to the

471
00:24:00,949 --> 00:23:59,159
audience and then they give it back and

472
00:24:02,959 --> 00:24:00,959
then it just spins around in a big

473
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:02,969
circle and it's a giant ball of energy

474
00:24:10,459 --> 00:24:06,450
and everybody's just high on music it's

475
00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:10,469
home Oh Rita just said we're gonna have

476
00:24:25,129 --> 00:24:12,829
a karaoke night over at the house and

477
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:25,139
and so you're invited no yeah you know

478
00:24:28,490 --> 00:24:26,369
what maybe you and I can do the

479
00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:28,500
Righteous Brothers together we'll do

480
00:24:39,290 --> 00:24:36,750
like unchained melody' Kurtis thank you

481
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:39,300
so much my friend and again everybody

482
00:24:47,270 --> 00:24:43,250
can go to snow you dot-com where else

483
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:47,280
you can find us on you know Amazon and

484
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:50,730
iTunes and Spotify and any place you

485
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:52,770
want to go it's an amazing record man

486
00:24:57,650 --> 00:24:55,890
congratulations it sounds it's it's

487
00:25:01,160 --> 00:24:57,660
everything that rock and roll should be

488
00:25:03,620 --> 00:25:01,170
and I love the rock and roll and and

489
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:03,630
currently cuz it and you know there's

490
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:05,510
another part of this everybody this is

491
00:25:11,770 --> 00:25:09,210
so much for our community just go and

492
00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:11,780
listen to the words and and you know

493
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:14,430
we're Curtis comes from and where his

494
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:18,060
mind is and this is this is for our

495
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:19,770
community it's just really well done

496
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:22,530
thank you so much Curtis thanks Jimmy

497
00:25:25,850 --> 00:25:25,110
have a great night my friend okay

498
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:25,860
brother

499
00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:28,170
there's nothing like the CD release day

500
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:29,550
are you guys having a party tonight

501
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:32,340
somewhere what do you guys I'm partying

502
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,050
with you right now and all the fate or

503
00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:36,720
not I'm surprised this is a huge party

504
00:25:41,870 --> 00:25:38,550
I'm surprised you know all day all day

505
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:41,880
all night it's it's just you've got some

506
00:25:48,740 --> 00:25:43,620
nerve party for us I'm surprised you're

507
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:48,750
not down at the rainbow all right Curtis

508
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:51,900
man congratulations my friend thank you

509
00:25:57,530 --> 00:25:54,960
thank you so much Curtis yeah thank you

510
00:26:01,040 --> 00:25:57,540
so much Curtis Curtis Don Vito from snoo

511
00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:01,050
the album just released today it is

512
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:04,830
called you've got some nerve and you can

513
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:08,760
find it everywhere there it is snoo

514
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:11,010
you've got some nerve all right now

515
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:12,630
coming up in a couple of minutes I'm

516
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:15,360
gonna get out of here Linda Moulton Howe

517
00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:20,000
was going to be here our community has

518
00:26:26,060 --> 00:26:23,400
and had some of the most dramatic stuff

519
00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:26,070
happened to it this past week with the

520
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closure and the evacuation of the

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00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:33,840
National Solar Observatory of I've

522
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:40,129
somebody that went up there and shot the

523
00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:42,419
empty streets a virtual ghost town

524
00:26:47,899 --> 00:26:45,120
couple of things that ransom found

525
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,909
ransom Godwin that he was up to when he

526
00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:49,919
was up there that I thought were so

527
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:53,820
intriguing one the workshop was left

528
00:27:00,740 --> 00:26:57,090
open garage door tools everything just

529
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:00,750
out no security anywhere that's the

530
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:02,610
first thing and I found that very very

531
00:27:06,740 --> 00:27:05,100
strange he said he also felt that it was

532
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:06,750
sanitized it was to clean all the

533
00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:08,730
windows were cleaned the floors were

534
00:27:15,259 --> 00:27:10,980
mopped you could see footprints in the

535
00:27:16,669 --> 00:27:15,269
freshly mopped floors and then at the

536
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:16,679
end of one of the hallways in the

537
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:19,730
laboratory on the top of the trashcan is

538
00:27:31,399 --> 00:27:26,490
a video game The X Files now was this

539
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:31,409
some kind of clue was this a joke I it

540
00:27:38,539 --> 00:27:35,510
was definitely done for a reason right

541
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:38,549
think about that well all of that

542
00:27:44,330 --> 00:27:41,730
brought this community into asking some

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q tonight we're gonna discuss the sudden

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closure and evacuation of the National

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Solar Observatory and with Linda the

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conversation will go anywhere so I

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promise you we will do that too the

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observatory was partially reopened today

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what was the real reason behind it and

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will we ever have the truth we'll find

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out tonight from Linda who is a graduate

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of Stanford University with a master's

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degree in communication she has devoted

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productions concerning science medicine

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and the environment

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she has received three regional Emmys a

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national Emmy nomination and a station

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Peabody Award and of course there is

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her own radio program with John

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Burroughs on KCRA she is on coast to

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coast am ancient alien since its first

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season and she has traveled to you ready

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Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto Rico and

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she's also got a new show on gaia called

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truth hunters and i would like to

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welcome back to fade the black the one

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and only Linda Moulton Howe Linda good

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evening

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hey Jimmy thank you and I'm glad that we

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can focus some attention on the strange

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story this being now the twelfth night

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from September 6 when the very first

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stories where most of us were not aware

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because this was a creeping story this

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started with the FBI

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coming in

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on September 6 closing down the National

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Solar Observatory at sunspot that sits

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at nine thousand two hundred feet on

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Sacramento Peak up looking down onto

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White Sands and Holloman Air Force Base

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two highly sensitive areas in the United

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States and by the seventh the eighth the

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ninth and 10th the 11th so were going

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about a week it took a week for rumors

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to start penetrating the public psyche

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first in social media and then starting

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in emails and on the 12th one of the

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most interesting things as background to

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where we're headed with what's happening

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now is what the Otero County Sheriff

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said to the local Alamogordo newspaper

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about the fact that he knew that the FBI

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had come in and closed down the

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observatory and there were rumors that

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they had closed down the post office but

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there now is great controversy about

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whether it had already been closed down

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for some other reason before the FBI

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closed down the observatory another one

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of those moving factors but nevertheless

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here is what the OT row County Sheriff

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Bennie House had to say to the media on

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around the 12th of September a week ago

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quote the FBI is refusing to tell us

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what's going on we've got people up

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there at Sun SPOT that requested us to

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stand by while they evacuated nobody

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would really elaborate on any of the

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circumstances as to why the FBI were up

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there what their purpose was nobody will

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say but for the FBI to get involved that

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quick and be so secretive about it there

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was a lot of stuff going on there was a

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Black Hawk helicopter this is the

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sheriff now a bunch of people around

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antennas and work crews on towers but

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nobody would tell us anything meaning

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the Sheriff's Office they wanted the FBI

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wanted the sheriff there while they were

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shutting it

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but they wouldn't even tell the sheriff

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what was going on

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the sheriff continued they wanted us up

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there to help evacuate but nobody would

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tell us anything we went up there and

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everything was no threat

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nobody would identify any specific

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threat we hung out for a little while

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when we left no reason for us to be

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there nobody would tell us what we were

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supposed to be watching okay now that

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was the sheriff when you jump to what it

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was that the what's called the aura this

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is the Association for research in

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astronomy that is supposed to have

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managed the observatory and the only

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quote that they put out back then at

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that time was saying something that was

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like this is only a security issue and

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they kept repeating eight the words a

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security issue and that was all that

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reached out from aura and people were so

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frustrated because they weren't getting

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any specific information and that's when

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within a very short period of time after

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aura put out I know

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no-nothing press release that here I

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have it quote the association of

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universities for research and Astronomy

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who manages the facility is addressing a

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security issue at this time we have

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decided to vacate the facility as

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precautionary measure it was our

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decision to evacuate the facility and

773
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that was the fulsome press release back

774
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:44,020
then okay so now why this started

775
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becoming the International story that it

776
00:39:58,140 --> 00:39:53,710
did is because they after that list

777
00:40:02,380 --> 00:39:58,150
within probably a day I started getting

778
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emails coming from all over the world

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literally saying that half a dozen solar

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observatories in both the northern and

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the southern hemisphere had been shut

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down it was a conspiracy something was

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happening on the Sun that the world was

784
00:40:24,579 --> 00:40:20,930
not supposed to see and I'm reading

785
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:24,589
these emails and thinking number one if

786
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:27,910
something's happening on the Sun if you

787
00:40:34,420 --> 00:40:31,640
black out six observatories on the earth

788
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:34,430
it doesn't mean anything there are over

789
00:40:39,130 --> 00:40:37,490
a thousand there would be all kinds of

790
00:40:40,299 --> 00:40:39,140
telescopes that would be focused on

791
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something

792
00:40:46,779 --> 00:40:43,279
shutting down six it was it didn't make

793
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any sense so I asked my colleague Peter

794
00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:49,010
Levin des if he would do some checking

795
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:52,660
on what was the state of solar

796
00:40:58,559 --> 00:40:55,609
observatories on planet earth in the

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00:41:02,289 --> 00:40:58,569
northern and the southern hemispheres on

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00:41:07,059 --> 00:41:02,299
September 12th and he went through and

799
00:41:09,490 --> 00:41:07,069
sent me a direct quote from six seven

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eight of the solar observatories there

801
00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:12,259
was not a single one where there was any

802
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:16,150
kind of a problem except that noted at

803
00:41:21,339 --> 00:41:20,450
sunspot New Mexico where the FBI had

804
00:41:25,269 --> 00:41:21,349
closed it down

805
00:41:29,289 --> 00:41:25,279
for security reasons now by that time

806
00:41:33,490 --> 00:41:29,299
that night I started receiving a bunch

807
00:41:36,609 --> 00:41:33,500
of there are eight hundred UFOs parked

808
00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:36,619
around the Sun and the world is trying

809
00:41:42,339 --> 00:41:38,900
to keep people from seeing it and it got

810
00:41:46,210 --> 00:41:42,349
crazier and crazier and it was clearly

811
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:46,220
people taking advantage of a story that

812
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:50,150
was beginning to run with rapid legs and

813
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:53,089
make hysterical headlines so that they

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could make some money on the clicks to

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their websites there's no question that

816
00:42:01,539 --> 00:41:58,670
that is what started happening with

817
00:42:04,180 --> 00:42:01,549
those crazy headlines well let's jump

818
00:42:07,029 --> 00:42:04,190
back to a reality check of what were

819
00:42:09,339 --> 00:42:07,039
some of the interesting emails that

820
00:42:12,910 --> 00:42:09,349
might have something to do with what

821
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:12,920
actually occurred that had the FBI come

822
00:42:16,250 --> 00:42:14,990
in on September 6 here is what I'm

823
00:42:19,940 --> 00:42:16,260
reading directly

824
00:42:22,670 --> 00:42:19,950
I heard this theory that some days

825
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:22,680
before the closing of the observatory on

826
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:27,240
September 6 a person got mad at the

827
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:30,420
observatory and possibly made threats to

828
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:32,970
them because the observatory was going

829
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:36,390
to be shut down this guy was concerned

830
00:42:41,330 --> 00:42:39,150
about jobs that would be lost because of

831
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:41,340
all the business the observatory brought

832
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:44,370
to this small town as a footnote on a

833
00:42:52,340 --> 00:42:48,390
yearly basis in terms of a census for

834
00:42:55,310 --> 00:42:52,350
sunspot New Mexico the number is seven

835
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:55,320
zero on the census and so those would be

836
00:43:00,920 --> 00:42:57,420
probably just people working at the

837
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:00,930
observatory and what when as I read this

838
00:43:06,110 --> 00:43:03,420
thinking and another email came and said

839
00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:06,120
I have I live in this area and I heard

840
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:08,550
there was a bomb threat at the

841
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:11,130
observatory which sounded like this

842
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:16,560
other email now the here again is this

843
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:19,770
rationale if there was somebody who was

844
00:43:25,070 --> 00:43:22,380
upset that the observatory was going to

845
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:25,080
be closed down and no 70 jobs would have

846
00:43:29,690 --> 00:43:26,400
to go someplace else

847
00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:29,700
why would they blow up or threaten to

848
00:43:34,820 --> 00:43:32,160
blow up the very institution that they

849
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,830
are arguing that they want to see stay

850
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:37,440
there for jobs and this is the way this

851
00:43:42,740 --> 00:43:39,510
story has gone turning right turning

852
00:43:46,130 --> 00:43:42,750
left turning upside down nothing really

853
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:46,140
really making sense and then when you

854
00:43:56,030 --> 00:43:52,560
get to yesterday at 5:30 p.m. I got the

855
00:43:57,890 --> 00:43:56,040
release from aura the Association of

856
00:44:00,410 --> 00:43:57,900
universities for research in astronomy

857
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:00,420
they're based in Washington DC this is

858
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:03,960
the only second comment that they have

859
00:44:08,660 --> 00:44:06,570
made since the very first one on

860
00:44:11,570 --> 00:44:08,670
September 6th which didn't say anything

861
00:44:14,210 --> 00:44:11,580
this is much longer and I think it is

862
00:44:17,590 --> 00:44:14,220
worth at least going into some of it

863
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:17,600
because this is the current official

864
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:21,390
authority and then we'll talk about the

865
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:23,880
people who are up there looking at the

866
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:26,310
entire site through drones and walking

867
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:30,090
around today but here is as of 530 P

868
00:44:37,470 --> 00:44:34,330
mountain time yesterday Sunday this is

869
00:44:41,610 --> 00:44:37,480
what came to me at Birth files.com

870
00:44:44,850 --> 00:44:41,620
in an email quote sunspot Solar

871
00:44:47,790 --> 00:44:44,860
Observatory is transitioning back to

872
00:44:50,940 --> 00:44:47,800
regular operations as of September 17th

873
00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:50,950
and that would be after being closed for

874
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:54,550
12 days from September 6 and then it

875
00:44:59,850 --> 00:44:57,610
says quote on September 6 the

876
00:45:02,130 --> 00:44:59,860
association of universities for research

877
00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:02,140
in astronomy aura and the National

878
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,470
Science Foundation NSF made the decision

879
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:07,920
to temporarily vacate the sunspots solar

880
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:10,240
observatory at Sacramento peak New

881
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:13,690
Mexico as a precautionary measure while

882
00:45:19,860 --> 00:45:17,110
addressing a security issue the facility

883
00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:19,870
closed down in an orderly fashion and is

884
00:45:24,660 --> 00:45:22,600
now reopening the residents that vacated

885
00:45:27,570 --> 00:45:24,670
their homes will be returning to the

886
00:45:30,510 --> 00:45:27,580
site and all employees will return to

887
00:45:34,170 --> 00:45:30,520
work this week aura has been cooperating

888
00:45:38,330 --> 00:45:34,180
with and ongoing this is quote an

889
00:45:41,790 --> 00:45:38,340
ongoing law enforcement investigation of

890
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:41,800
criminal activity that occurred at

891
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:45,190
Sacramento peak and the occurred that

892
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:48,910
occurred means something specific that

893
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:51,880
is not stated and a criminal activity

894
00:45:57,690 --> 00:45:55,090
that occurred at Sacramento peak during

895
00:46:01,470 --> 00:45:57,700
this time we became concerned that a

896
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,480
suspect in the investigation potentially

897
00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:04,720
posed a threat to the safety of local

898
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:07,660
staff and residents for this reason or a

899
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,210
temporarily vacated the facility and

900
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:12,160
seized science activities at this

901
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:15,970
location in that threat the bottom

902
00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:19,810
threat or the potential attack in those

903
00:46:25,620 --> 00:46:22,630
two emails that I read from just a few

904
00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:25,630
minutes ago this does not go into detail

905
00:46:31,140 --> 00:46:28,660
but it continues the decision to vacate

906
00:46:33,780 --> 00:46:31,150
was based on the logistical challenges

907
00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:33,790
associated with protecting personnel at

908
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:36,300
such a remote location again it's at

909
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:40,530
9,200 feet on Sacramento Peak the most

910
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:42,640
population that is supposed to be there

911
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:43,690
year-round

912
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,440
zero seventy it overlooks the vast and

913
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:49,119
important of White Sands Missile Range

914
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:52,690
and further the Holloman Air Force Base

915
00:46:59,910 --> 00:46:57,210
and it continues quote and the need for

916
00:47:02,819 --> 00:46:59,920
expeditious response that means quick

917
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:02,829
fast and effective for expeditious

918
00:47:08,849 --> 00:47:06,550
response to the potential threat or I

919
00:47:11,339 --> 00:47:08,859
determined that moving the small number

920
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,349
of on-site staff and residents off the

921
00:47:15,329 --> 00:47:13,359
mountain was the most prudent and

922
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:15,339
effective action to ensure their safety

923
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,920
in light of recent developments in the

924
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:20,319
investigation we have determined there

925
00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:22,839
is no risk to staff in sunspots solar

926
00:47:29,089 --> 00:47:25,900
observatory is transitioning back to

927
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,099
regular operations as of September 17th

928
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:31,599
given the significant amount of

929
00:47:36,990 --> 00:47:33,760
publicity the temporary closure has

930
00:47:39,930 --> 00:47:37,000
generated and the consequent expectation

931
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:39,940
of an unusual number of visitors to the

932
00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:42,880
site we are temporarily engaging a

933
00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:45,550
security service while the facility

934
00:47:51,740 --> 00:47:48,190
returns to a normal working environment

935
00:47:54,569 --> 00:47:51,750
well here Jimmy my question would be why

936
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:54,579
didn't aura and the National Science

937
00:48:01,230 --> 00:47:57,970
Foundation and the University of New

938
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:01,240
Mexico State University why didn't they

939
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:04,270
say all of this back on September 6

940
00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:07,450
that's right that's right that's that's

941
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:09,780
one of the biggest questions of all

942
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:13,510
exactly and they've had 12 days to

943
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:16,690
figure out this press release while all

944
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:22,569
of these click money operations 800 UF I

945
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:27,119
was parked around the Sun if six solar

946
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:30,490
observatories more closing down around

947
00:48:36,510 --> 00:48:33,280
the world because something that I mean

948
00:48:38,970 --> 00:48:36,520
it was it was crazy and actually to

949
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:38,980
credible journalists who work hard

950
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:41,650
trying to get the pressure of fact that

951
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:44,770
is really irritating it's angering

952
00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:48,359
because what's happening now this story

953
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:51,400
should proves it that we are have

954
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:53,800
entered an age I think of it now that

955
00:48:57,540 --> 00:48:56,890
the web once upon a time was really

956
00:48:59,940 --> 00:48:57,550
helpful in

957
00:49:02,010 --> 00:48:59,950
research it's now being manipulated

958
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:02,020
politically in every other way sort of

959
00:49:07,350 --> 00:49:04,450
like a cesspool that when you get into

960
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:07,360
it you have to work overtime just trying

961
00:49:13,590 --> 00:49:10,570
to find out what is fact on the web

962
00:49:16,830 --> 00:49:13,600
because so much of it now is abused

963
00:49:20,010 --> 00:49:16,840
misused and manipulated to generate

964
00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:20,020
money through clicks on sensational

965
00:49:25,050 --> 00:49:22,840
titles that have absolutely no vetting

966
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:25,060
nothing behind them and one of the

967
00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:28,510
shocking I'm going to say promoters of

968
00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:31,480
the idea that Observatory solar

969
00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:33,430
observatories would be closed down

970
00:49:38,250 --> 00:49:36,460
around the world to keep the world from

971
00:49:41,850 --> 00:49:38,260
seeing something on the Sun completely

972
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:41,860
irrational but that was pushed by The

973
00:49:46,170 --> 00:49:43,150
Drudge Report

974
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:46,180
there was no vetting no investigation it

975
00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:49,690
was rip and paste just put up stuff and

976
00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:52,420
then Drudge would have the influence of

977
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:54,580
multiplying the number of people who

978
00:49:59,100 --> 00:49:56,910
would be then assuming that

979
00:50:01,380 --> 00:49:59,110
observatories were being closed down

980
00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:01,390
around the planet did it have something

981
00:50:07,140 --> 00:50:04,750
to do with 800 UFOs park but I mean it

982
00:50:11,390 --> 00:50:07,150
was crazy it was insane it was

983
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:11,400
frustrating and at earthfiles on the 12

984
00:50:17,430 --> 00:50:13,990
because I do my earthfiles YouTube

985
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:17,440
channel live report every Wednesday

986
00:50:24,570 --> 00:50:21,070
night I was able to with the help of

987
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:24,580
Peter Levin des research to post the

988
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:27,280
same named observatories that have been

989
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:29,770
on Drudge and at other websites with the

990
00:50:35,850 --> 00:50:32,710
comments that anybody could go to any

991
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:35,860
web site with any solar observatory or

992
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:38,650
any any telescope you can do that

993
00:50:43,050 --> 00:50:40,810
yourself you can type in a search you

994
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:43,060
can put in a title you can go you can

995
00:50:48,570 --> 00:50:46,150
read about the status of the observatory

996
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:48,580
which is what Peter did and then I put

997
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:52,000
it together saying here there's nothing

998
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:54,520
there are none of these there's none of

999
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,090
these observatories that are down and

1000
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:00,160
this then was where the tide began

1001
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:03,760
turning from what I was seeing audiences

1002
00:51:10,299 --> 00:51:06,730
and people started sending me hundreds

1003
00:51:13,509 --> 00:51:10,309
of emails saying thank you

1004
00:51:17,529 --> 00:51:13,519
bringing some pressure of fact to this

1005
00:51:20,709 --> 00:51:17,539
story and as of today we far exceeded a

1006
00:51:23,140 --> 00:51:20,719
hundred thousand views and I'm grateful

1007
00:51:27,999 --> 00:51:23,150
because it means that what not all is

1008
00:51:31,089 --> 00:51:28,009
lost if you do try to do investigation

1009
00:51:33,429 --> 00:51:31,099
and you do try to report hard fact even

1010
00:51:35,469 --> 00:51:33,439
if we don't have the answer to what

1011
00:51:38,769 --> 00:51:35,479
exactly this criminal activity is that

1012
00:51:40,989 --> 00:51:38,779
the FBI closed this down we at least

1013
00:51:44,739 --> 00:51:40,999
have been able to eliminate that there

1014
00:51:46,529 --> 00:51:44,749
was no population of solar observatories

1015
00:51:50,859 --> 00:51:46,539
around the world that were closed down

1016
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:50,869
that there were no objects around the

1017
00:51:54,549 --> 00:51:52,729
Sun that was being done by people who

1018
00:51:57,009 --> 00:51:54,559
were using Photoshop and all kinds of

1019
00:51:59,439 --> 00:51:57,019
crazy things to generate those quick

1020
00:52:02,620 --> 00:51:59,449
monies and so what are we left with

1021
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:02,630
tonight on the 17th of September on

1022
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:06,079
Monday twelve full days later we are

1023
00:52:12,999 --> 00:52:08,689
left with this press release which ends

1024
00:52:16,749 --> 00:52:13,009
with this paragraph quote we recognize

1025
00:52:20,169 --> 00:52:16,759
that the lack of communications while

1026
00:52:23,949 --> 00:52:20,179
the facility was vacated was concerning

1027
00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:23,959
and frustrating for some however our

1028
00:52:30,609 --> 00:52:26,529
desire to provide additional information

1029
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:30,619
had to be balanced against the risk that

1030
00:52:39,150 --> 00:52:33,890
if spread at the time the news would

1031
00:52:42,370 --> 00:52:39,160
alert the suspect and impede the law

1032
00:52:45,069 --> 00:52:42,380
enforcement investigation that was a

1033
00:52:48,489 --> 00:52:45,079
risk we could not take close quote and

1034
00:52:50,829 --> 00:52:48,499
in that last paragraph it's like they

1035
00:52:53,169 --> 00:52:50,839
almost pull the rug out from under

1036
00:52:55,569 --> 00:52:53,179
everything else preceding they are

1037
00:52:59,469 --> 00:52:55,579
basically saying that whatever this is

1038
00:53:03,429 --> 00:52:59,479
with a suspect criminal activity it has

1039
00:53:07,479 --> 00:53:03,439
still not been explained at any level

1040
00:53:10,209 --> 00:53:07,489
what is this criminal activity on that I

1041
00:53:12,279 --> 00:53:10,219
have news on that so I'll help you out

1042
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:12,289
on that right now but this is it you

1043
00:53:19,029 --> 00:53:15,410
bring up one of the craziest points

1044
00:53:21,279 --> 00:53:19,039
about this press release here how are

1045
00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:21,289
they trying to keep this quiet from the

1046
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:22,550
suspect

1047
00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:24,710
with friggin blackhawk helicopters and

1048
00:53:36,730 --> 00:53:33,380
the FBI in an evacuation that then

1049
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:36,740
caught everybody when that sheriff who

1050
00:53:42,250 --> 00:53:39,530
is a credible guy was frustrated right

1051
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:42,260
that meant that everybody else in the

1052
00:53:49,660 --> 00:53:45,050
media myself included says something

1053
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:49,670
weird is going on here and then why did

1054
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:52,610
an NSF why didn't aura step up to the

1055
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:56,000
plate exactly then and explain and this

1056
00:54:01,180 --> 00:53:57,920
press release even though it's better

1057
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:01,190
Jimmy it's still it is frustrating

1058
00:54:06,130 --> 00:54:03,890
because it makes it sound so serious and

1059
00:54:08,350 --> 00:54:06,140
it doesn't explain anything okay so this

1060
00:54:13,590 --> 00:54:08,360
is what I've got this is breaking right

1061
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:13,600
before the show is that there was

1062
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:16,610
$15,000 worth of communication equipment

1063
00:54:23,830 --> 00:54:20,570
that was stolen up there from one of the

1064
00:54:28,510 --> 00:54:23,840
employees and was taken out into the

1065
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:28,520
market it was not computer equipment but

1066
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:31,280
it was very specific communication

1067
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:33,890
equipment now there's that part of it

1068
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:36,170
and that this specific person that was

1069
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:39,170
doing this theft was was doing this for

1070
00:54:46,210 --> 00:54:42,610
for quite a while and it was easy to

1071
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:46,220
steal gear from up there and turn around

1072
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:50,000
and sell it for profit so there there's

1073
00:54:55,870 --> 00:54:52,910
that part now that mate let's let's stop

1074
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:55,880
for a second Linda and suppose that this

1075
00:55:00,430 --> 00:54:57,650
is actually what happened

1076
00:55:03,610 --> 00:55:00,440
then why the evacuation and why was

1077
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:03,620
silence why not arrest this guy and not

1078
00:55:07,890 --> 00:55:06,170
freak out you know half of the planet

1079
00:55:11,770 --> 00:55:07,900
like they did and then there was one

1080
00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:11,780
Jimmy Jimmy just to reinforce and drive

1081
00:55:19,330 --> 00:55:15,230
the nail home stolen equipment already

1082
00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:19,340
after the fact would not justify the FBI

1083
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:22,870
Union closing down and evacuating

1084
00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:25,850
evacuating makes the bottom threat idea

1085
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:28,520
possibly as part of this story for real

1086
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,040
yeah it's a cover story no doubt there's

1087
00:55:35,830 --> 00:55:33,680
we don't we're gonna find out hopefully

1088
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,840
eventually what actually won't

1089
00:55:41,230 --> 00:55:38,480
but we all know by the way that they

1090
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:41,240
handled it with the sheriff and with

1091
00:55:47,170 --> 00:55:44,570
with the evacuation and the dead silence

1092
00:55:49,330 --> 00:55:47,180
with the media that we didn't know if it

1093
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:49,340
was environmental Linda we didn't know

1094
00:55:53,890 --> 00:55:51,110
if there was a threat to the community

1095
00:55:55,270 --> 00:55:53,900
or to the wildlife was there some kind

1096
00:55:57,790 --> 00:55:55,280
of radiation leak we didn't know

1097
00:56:02,170 --> 00:55:57,800
anything right or was it et right we

1098
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:02,180
didn't know anything in the past week

1099
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:07,730
UFO reports over Mount Taylor that's you

1100
00:56:13,630 --> 00:56:09,350
know that's going toward the Roswell

1101
00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:13,640
region and if you say that Sacramento

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Peak overlook white sands Holloman in

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that general area that historically for

1104
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:22,250
at least 70 years has said some

1105
00:56:28,630 --> 00:56:25,550
association with UFOs you can see that

1106
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:28,640
any headline about the observatory being

1107
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:31,370
closed down with that explanation that

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you're going to have a percentage that

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are going to jump to that which then

1110
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:39,800
went wild with the jerry-rigged photos

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00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,650
or images that were phony having to do

1112
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:45,440
with UFOs and it just shows you if it

1113
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:50,000
was stealing equipment and selling it it

1114
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:53,440
still does not explain the evacuation

1115
00:57:01,720 --> 00:56:57,890
taking everybody out and having security

1116
00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:01,730
there today why would it still be weird

1117
00:57:07,540 --> 00:57:04,100
I talked with he asked me to call him

1118
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:07,550
Paul M you know him yes he is a drone

1119
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pilot he was good enough to go there

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today and I made some notes about some

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00:57:20,770 --> 00:57:17,930
of the things that he had to say it's

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very interesting and here is one of the

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most interesting of all some people

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appear he talked with him appear to have

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been silenced by NDA's non-disclosure

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agreement he spoke to a solar

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observatory visitor this afternoon off

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the record who said they had signed a

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non-disclosure form and that they were

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compensated

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enough money where they would not want

1132
00:57:58,809 --> 00:57:56,119
to talk let's take a break right here

1133
00:58:02,609 --> 00:57:58,819
we've got more to talk about and I know

1134
00:58:06,279 --> 00:58:02,619
that you've seen the footage Paul and

1135
00:58:08,769 --> 00:58:06,289
and ransom sent me the drone footage

1136
00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:08,779
that they just shot and I look at that

1137
00:58:14,380 --> 00:58:11,150
we'll talk about that when we come back

1138
00:58:16,779 --> 00:58:14,390
this is a you know what's funny as I

1139
00:58:19,180 --> 00:58:16,789
roll into the music here Linda this is a

1140
00:58:23,019 --> 00:58:19,190
story that is now permanently cemented

1141
00:58:25,239 --> 00:58:23,029
into the UFO community forever I mean

1142
00:58:32,349 --> 00:58:25,249
this is something to go back and discuss

1143
00:58:34,839 --> 00:58:32,359
for a very long time right I think they

1144
00:58:37,089 --> 00:58:34,849
completely blew it and and we've got

1145
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something to talk about in ten years you

1146
00:58:41,470 --> 00:58:38,930
and I are gonna have dinner and talk

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00:58:43,029 --> 00:58:41,480
about the National Solar Observatory our

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guest tonight Linda Moulton Howe we'll

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pick up where we left off

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this is fade to black our meals Jimmy

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Church Moreland after this short break

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1244
01:03:36,849 --> 01:03:34,030
all right welcome back fade to black I

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01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:36,859
am your host Jimmy Church our guest

1246
01:03:40,059 --> 01:03:38,569
tonight Linda Moulton out we're gonna

1247
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:40,069
talk about a lot tonight but right now

1248
01:03:46,150 --> 01:03:42,770
we're discussing the closure of the

1249
01:03:49,329 --> 01:03:46,160
National Solar Observatory and sunspot

1250
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:49,339
New Mexico and Linda okay now a couple

1251
01:03:54,490 --> 01:03:50,810
of things I want I want your thoughts

1252
01:03:59,410 --> 01:03:54,500
here a couple of really interesting

1253
01:04:01,930 --> 01:03:59,420
things stand out for me and as you know

1254
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:01,940
Ransome Godwin went up there and took a

1255
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:03,710
walk through and shot this video

1256
01:04:11,050 --> 01:04:08,000
I interviewed ransom last week and what

1257
01:04:14,380 --> 01:04:11,060
he experienced and went through up there

1258
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:14,390
all interesting three points number one

1259
01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:16,810
when he pulled up to the police tape a

1260
01:04:22,450 --> 01:04:19,670
sheriff the sheriff the Attero County

1261
01:04:27,609 --> 01:04:22,460
Sheriff was there and it just said yo

1262
01:04:32,530 --> 01:04:27,619
what's up and split left him left him at

1263
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:32,540
the gate to walk onto the property now I

1264
01:04:36,819 --> 01:04:34,970
that that that right there I don't know

1265
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:36,829
what the answers are but I don't know

1266
01:04:43,950 --> 01:04:39,050
about you but a sheriff has never let me

1267
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:46,180
welcome back to that I'm gonna give you

1268
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my three points the second one that I

1269
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thought was extremely interesting was

1270
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that the workshop for the cars up there

1271
01:05:00,040 --> 01:04:57,740
and the trucks the garage doors were

1272
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:00,050
left open and all of the tools and the

1273
01:05:03,099 --> 01:05:01,609
mechanics - were all left out in the

1274
01:05:06,370 --> 01:05:03,109
open anybody could have gone in and

1275
01:05:09,370 --> 01:05:06,380
vandalized it that I found strange the

1276
01:05:12,579 --> 01:05:09,380
the third thing was they boarded up all

1277
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of the windows of the houses like they

1278
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were expecting a hurricane that was

1279
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strange and then the fourth thing that I

1280
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:21,369
just find trippy as all get-out is that

1281
01:05:27,849 --> 01:05:24,710
he saw and it's on videotape

1282
01:05:29,980 --> 01:05:27,859
and on top of one of the trash cans in

1283
01:05:32,170 --> 01:05:29,990
the sanitized hallway that was just

1284
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:32,180
mopped and cleaned up and the windows

1285
01:05:40,089 --> 01:05:35,150
clean on the top of the trash can is an

1286
01:05:42,809 --> 01:05:40,099
x-files DVD now wait wait if you're not

1287
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trying to mess with the public's mind

1288
01:05:47,170 --> 01:05:45,140
there's it's just it

1289
01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:47,180
none of those four things right there

1290
01:05:51,370 --> 01:05:49,789
don't make any sense if the FBI is going

1291
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:51,380
to go up there and evacuate and then

1292
01:05:59,880 --> 01:05:53,569
turn around and allow all of this to go

1293
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down the contradiction between having

1294
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grudges open because that's what Paul M

1295
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also he told them all was there I yeah

1296
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yeah yeah Paul is a friend of ransoms

1297
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and Paul was there today and called and

1298
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:15,319
talked to me this afternoon like at 3:00

1299
01:06:22,750 --> 01:06:19,010
p.m. not that long ago and he said I

1300
01:06:25,630 --> 01:06:22,760
noticed that the residential streets the

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01:06:29,309 --> 01:06:25,640
houses all the windows are still boarded

1302
01:06:33,099 --> 01:06:29,319
up and that they had put orange cones

1303
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:33,109
like orange coning off the residential

1304
01:06:37,299 --> 01:06:35,390
houses with all of the would still

1305
01:06:40,089 --> 01:06:37,309
boarding up the windows as you said like

1306
01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:40,099
you would do for a hurricane and that

1307
01:06:48,099 --> 01:06:41,119
the garages

1308
01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:48,109
during a period of time when nobody is

1309
01:06:54,039 --> 01:06:50,750
there that contradicts the idea that

1310
01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:54,049
they had $15,000 in computer equipment

1311
01:07:00,069 --> 01:06:56,990
that was stolen from the observatory the

1312
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:00,079
none of this is making any logical sense

1313
01:07:06,759 --> 01:07:04,130
and the I heard about that Paul M and

1314
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:06,769
ransom said that they they didn't know

1315
01:07:10,779 --> 01:07:09,200
whether to laugh or to think that

1316
01:07:13,870 --> 01:07:10,789
somebody was trying to send a signal

1317
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:13,880
that the x-files DVD was on top of an

1318
01:07:19,630 --> 01:07:15,049
open trash can

1319
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:19,640
well if any of this can be looked at and

1320
01:07:26,430 --> 01:07:22,250
tried to be analyzed given the fact that

1321
01:07:29,259 --> 01:07:26,440
today Paul M said it was still barren

1322
01:07:31,420 --> 01:07:29,269
empty like still like a ghost town

1323
01:07:33,970 --> 01:07:31,430
outside of the fact that there were some

1324
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,980
people in the solar observatory he

1325
01:07:39,309 --> 01:07:36,079
walked in he saw them he said nobody

1326
01:07:42,190 --> 01:07:39,319
looked happy everybody was frowning one

1327
01:07:45,130 --> 01:07:42,200
security female guard came up to him and

1328
01:07:48,970 --> 01:07:45,140
said may I answer your questions and

1329
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:48,980
when he said yeah what has happened here

1330
01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:52,430
why they said we cannot make comment so

1331
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:56,000
nothing really has changed and this is

1332
01:08:00,759 --> 01:07:58,880
highlighting the fact that if the

1333
01:08:04,210 --> 01:08:00,769
windows are boarded up that they've

1334
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:04,220
added orange cones to separate out the

1335
01:08:12,430 --> 01:08:08,950
residential area if they trash and are

1336
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:12,440
or the garage are open that anybody

1337
01:08:17,410 --> 01:08:14,450
could walk in and take that kind of

1338
01:08:19,539 --> 01:08:17,420
equipment where is the security that you

1339
01:08:23,229 --> 01:08:19,549
would think would be operational at this

1340
01:08:25,030 --> 01:08:23,239
observatory if $15,000 of computer

1341
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:25,040
equipment have been stolen and they are

1342
01:08:31,930 --> 01:08:27,650
now concerned about the vulnerability of

1343
01:08:34,090 --> 01:08:31,940
the observatory yeah now see this Linda

1344
01:08:36,309 --> 01:08:34,100
you've been you've been doing this for a

1345
01:08:37,809 --> 01:08:36,319
long time you've been doing the some of

1346
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:37,819
the most effective journalism and

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01:08:44,919 --> 01:08:40,370
research not only for our community but

1348
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:44,929
in any genre of journalism and when you

1349
01:08:49,870 --> 01:08:47,480
hear all of this how many red flags are

1350
01:08:50,740 --> 01:08:49,880
just throwing up here for you to go whoa

1351
01:08:52,809 --> 01:08:50,750
wait a minute

1352
01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:52,819
somebody's yanking our chain here we're

1353
01:08:56,979 --> 01:08:54,230
just not getting the straight story

1354
01:09:00,430 --> 01:08:56,989
we're not getting the straight story and

1355
01:09:03,610 --> 01:09:00,440
one that sort of crept in around

1356
01:09:07,149 --> 01:09:03,620
September 12 kind of on the edges of

1357
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:07,159
things meaning there was an email here

1358
01:09:12,490 --> 01:09:09,290
you probably said nothing coherent but

1359
01:09:14,260 --> 01:09:12,500
it was suggesting that the FBI may have

1360
01:09:17,860 --> 01:09:14,270
been called in because there was a

1361
01:09:20,649 --> 01:09:17,870
Chinese spy that was working in the

1362
01:09:23,519 --> 01:09:20,659
observatory and that they learned that

1363
01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:23,529
computer equipment had been turned into

1364
01:09:30,939 --> 01:09:26,420
observation for the Chinese government

1365
01:09:33,309 --> 01:09:30,949
of white sands and Holloman well that is

1366
01:09:35,919 --> 01:09:33,319
not proven I'm saying those are the

1367
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:35,929
kinds of around the edges of the story

1368
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:38,319
crept in the possibility of

1369
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:41,330
international espionage and why I think

1370
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:43,759
it's worth bringing up even though

1371
01:09:52,570 --> 01:09:48,880
nothing has been proven is that when you

1372
01:09:56,890 --> 01:09:52,580
consider the fact that the solar

1373
01:10:00,750 --> 01:09:56,900
observatory and white sands and Holloman

1374
01:10:03,729 --> 01:10:00,760
Air Force Base we do get international

1375
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:03,739
scientists we get international people

1376
01:10:09,310 --> 01:10:06,050
and military that come in to these

1377
01:10:12,669 --> 01:10:09,320
sensitive areas the possibility that

1378
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:12,679
something like the observatory at 9,000

1379
01:10:19,870 --> 01:10:16,690
200 feet could have been hacked into or

1380
01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:19,880
turned into some kind of an observation

1381
01:10:24,850 --> 01:10:22,880
post so that they could keep track of

1382
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:24,860
something at White Sands and Holloman

1383
01:10:31,689 --> 01:10:28,130
that is another area that there hasn't

1384
01:10:36,430 --> 01:10:31,699
been much discussion about but it might

1385
01:10:38,590 --> 01:10:36,440
be closer to a real truth and look at

1386
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:38,600
how sensitive our government is to the

1387
01:10:45,820 --> 01:10:41,690
idea any international espionage now

1388
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:45,830
because of all the Soviet stuff so I'm

1389
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:48,890
laying that out there not as any other

1390
01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:52,400
thing but to say we have not had anybody

1391
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:55,719
explain to us what possible

1392
01:11:02,140 --> 01:10:58,130
international sabotage could that

1393
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:02,150
Observatory be misused because it is up

1394
01:11:08,380 --> 01:11:06,170
above such sensitive military areas and

1395
01:11:11,740 --> 01:11:08,390
so that's a question mark that hangs out

1396
01:11:15,070 --> 01:11:11,750
there and yet that's still that would

1397
01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:15,080
not explain how garages would be left

1398
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:17,480
open that anybody could walk into while

1399
01:11:21,939 --> 01:11:19,730
they boarded up windows and they're

1400
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:21,949
putting orange cones at the houses yeah

1401
01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:24,650
and and to do all of that and and just

1402
01:11:30,340 --> 01:11:28,159
put up some simple police tape and then

1403
01:11:32,140 --> 01:11:30,350
anybody that wanted to drive up the road

1404
01:11:35,290 --> 01:11:32,150
and walk onto the property could do so

1405
01:11:38,410 --> 01:11:35,300
it's it's a contradiction it's a paradox

1406
01:11:40,570 --> 01:11:38,420
actually it's like a real paradox and

1407
01:11:43,540 --> 01:11:40,580
it's okay

1408
01:11:46,750 --> 01:11:43,550
now let's let's explore a couple of

1409
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:46,760
other ideas here that one of them that

1410
01:11:51,370 --> 01:11:49,130
you have been covering along with myself

1411
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:51,380
for a while now our fast radio bursts

1412
01:11:57,490 --> 01:11:55,370
two days before the raid the big

1413
01:12:00,850 --> 01:11:57,500
announcement came about the repeater

1414
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:00,860
right the repeater FSB that pops out

1415
01:12:06,130 --> 01:12:03,050
then there was some rumors the day

1416
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:06,140
before of the closure that I was

1417
01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:09,110
following up with was that said he was

1418
01:12:17,070 --> 01:12:14,590
involved with there along with the other

1419
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:17,080
scientific crew with the fast repeater

1420
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:20,810
we're all tied into these observatories

1421
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:24,050
in New Mexico is there a possibility

1422
01:12:29,009 --> 01:12:25,510
Linda

1423
01:12:31,109 --> 01:12:29,019
that this observatory or shared

1424
01:12:34,549 --> 01:12:31,119
information with another observatory

1425
01:12:37,529 --> 01:12:34,559
about picking up and detecting something

1426
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:37,539
well I don't know about the last

1427
01:12:43,259 --> 01:12:39,730
question but I know a lot about the

1428
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:43,269
first question the fast radio bursts is

1429
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:46,690
a story that has been developing and

1430
01:12:53,399 --> 01:12:49,690
evolving for a decade not before and

1431
01:12:56,009 --> 01:12:53,409
that it's in the last year that I did an

1432
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:56,019
interview with avi Loeb he is the

1433
01:13:02,069 --> 01:12:58,570
chairman of the Astronomy Department of

1434
01:13:05,189 --> 01:13:02,079
Harvard University he is on the board of

1435
01:13:07,470 --> 01:13:05,199
directors for star shot star shot is

1436
01:13:09,149 --> 01:13:07,480
this very exciting project I've done a

1437
01:13:11,549 --> 01:13:09,159
lot of work about this at Earth files

1438
01:13:12,899 --> 01:13:11,559
everything I'm saying now anybody who

1439
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:12,909
would like to get in depth

1440
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:17,440
you just go to WWF is calm in the search

1441
01:13:22,589 --> 01:13:20,320
you type in fast radio bursts and you

1442
01:13:25,709 --> 01:13:22,599
will see the many reports I have done

1443
01:13:29,970 --> 01:13:25,719
about that type in star shot it's

1444
01:13:33,930 --> 01:13:29,980
usually all caps sta are sa chhoti I've

1445
01:13:36,979 --> 01:13:33,940
done a lot of work on that star shot was

1446
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:36,989
funded about two years ago by the

1447
01:13:44,129 --> 01:13:40,239
Russian billionaire billionaire who now

1448
01:13:47,609 --> 01:13:44,139
lives in San Jose and he working with

1449
01:13:50,250 --> 01:13:47,619
Harvard working with other astronomy

1450
01:13:55,020 --> 01:13:50,260
departments their idea boils down to

1451
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:55,030
this can we get lasers put together in a

1452
01:14:01,259 --> 01:13:58,090
bank that would be the propulsion system

1453
01:14:04,049 --> 01:14:01,269
for small craft it's two or three years

1454
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:04,059
ago they were calling them wafer W a fer

1455
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:07,570
wafer craft think of your iPhone imagine

1456
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:09,730
that we are now going to start moving

1457
01:14:17,339 --> 01:14:12,750
into outer space in star shot by

1458
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:17,349
projecting iPhones at say 20% 30% the

1459
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:19,900
speed of light by the propulsion of

1460
01:14:26,549 --> 01:14:24,130
lasers light pushing at those iPhones

1461
01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:26,559
that will be protected by a small shield

1462
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:31,150
and the big idea is that maybe in two

1463
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:34,239
years maybe three years we will start

1464
01:14:38,669 --> 01:14:36,369
one there's a question about whether

1465
01:14:39,419 --> 01:14:38,679
we're going to launch from the earth or

1466
01:14:41,700 --> 01:14:39,429
from the moon

1467
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:41,710
if we can get a launch facility up on

1468
01:14:45,930 --> 01:14:43,449
the moon we're not fighting atmosphere

1469
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:45,940
but we would have to get a facility on

1470
01:14:50,060 --> 01:14:48,130
the moon so it may be the launch will be

1471
01:14:53,850 --> 01:14:50,070
from Earth through the atmosphere first

1472
01:14:55,950 --> 01:14:53,860
whatever happens here is the goal if

1473
01:14:59,399 --> 01:14:55,960
they can get one of these we'll call

1474
01:15:02,729 --> 01:14:59,409
them the iPhone type wafer crap going at

1475
01:15:05,490 --> 01:15:02,739
20% the speed of light and then in a few

1476
01:15:08,189 --> 01:15:05,500
months they do one at 30% and then next

1477
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:08,199
year maybe 40% and that they start

1478
01:15:15,149 --> 01:15:10,690
getting a whole bunch of the small crap

1479
01:15:17,430 --> 01:15:15,159
being propelled by laser light going at

1480
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:17,440
these percentages of the speed of light

1481
01:15:25,290 --> 01:15:21,850
toward Alpha Centauri Alpha Centauri is

1482
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:25,300
four light-years from Earth going

1483
01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:29,650
full-tilt 186,000 miles a second so if

1484
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:33,400
you're going 30% or 50% let's take 50%

1485
01:15:39,060 --> 01:15:36,250
it's easier to calculate so you would

1486
01:15:41,459 --> 01:15:39,070
add another two years so you might be

1487
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:41,469
able to get to Alpha Centauri in seven

1488
01:15:46,169 --> 01:15:43,840
years and then you might be able to get

1489
01:15:48,060 --> 01:15:46,179
photographs and then send them back to

1490
01:15:50,669 --> 01:15:48,070
earth if you could go fifty percent the

1491
01:15:54,090 --> 01:15:50,679
speed of light and the whole idea is

1492
01:15:58,290 --> 01:15:54,100
that we're getting away from any kind of

1493
01:16:02,820 --> 01:15:58,300
hydrocarbon propulsion heavy tanks this

1494
01:16:07,010 --> 01:16:02,830
would be light now avi Loeb is working

1495
01:16:10,890 --> 01:16:07,020
on and he prepared a paper after

1496
01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:10,900
analysis of up to I think to the 27 fast

1497
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:13,900
radio bursts and in his paper as the

1498
01:16:20,220 --> 01:16:16,449
chair of the Department of astronomy at

1499
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:20,230
Harvard he proposes that we consider

1500
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:22,690
this as the hypothesis for fast radio

1501
01:16:31,260 --> 01:16:25,570
bursts that they are the first evidence

1502
01:16:35,399 --> 01:16:31,270
of light speed transport in our universe

1503
01:16:38,689 --> 01:16:35,409
mm-hmm the location is three billion

1504
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:38,699
light-years from Earth and a small

1505
01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:45,010
galaxy a single galaxy is where some of

1506
01:16:52,169 --> 01:16:48,400
these repeaters have been so when you

1507
01:16:53,010 --> 01:16:52,179
read the paper that avi loved it as the

1508
01:16:54,780 --> 01:16:53,020
chair of the

1509
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:54,790
astronomy department and you listen to

1510
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:56,320
that interview that I did with a matter

1511
01:17:01,320 --> 01:16:57,450
of files.com

1512
01:17:03,540 --> 01:17:01,330
you realize that whether or not we as a

1513
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:03,550
world human family have understood

1514
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:06,250
what's happening the universities of

1515
01:17:10,260 --> 01:17:07,570
this planet

1516
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:10,270
the advanced astrophysicists of this

1517
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:10,960
planet

1518
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:14,650
they are already contemplating working

1519
01:17:21,330 --> 01:17:17,710
on plans how do we get off planet Earth

1520
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:21,340
how do we find exoplanets that might be

1521
01:17:28,770 --> 01:17:26,110
able to support life Mars is going to be

1522
01:17:32,670 --> 01:17:28,780
a project maybe Elon Musk will manage it

1523
01:17:36,420 --> 01:17:32,680
but we are already with large money

1524
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:36,430
large universities large concepts we are

1525
01:17:42,180 --> 01:17:39,610
looking at ways we can get off this

1526
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:42,190
planet and discover other places and

1527
01:17:49,230 --> 01:17:46,390
that becomes the exciting atmosphere in

1528
01:17:52,590 --> 01:17:49,240
which fast radio bursts are now being

1529
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:52,600
discussed as the context that they're

1530
01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:55,170
they themselves might be proof of

1531
01:17:59,010 --> 01:17:57,490
advanced intelligence in this universe

1532
01:18:01,950 --> 01:17:59,020
three billion light years away and

1533
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:01,960
that's through Harvard do you think that

1534
01:18:06,510 --> 01:18:04,540
because of and it reminds me of the

1535
01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:06,520
movie contact right this is almost

1536
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:09,640
exactly how we would expect it to play

1537
01:18:12,570 --> 01:18:11,440
out if it actually happened right I'm

1538
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:12,580
talking about the National Solar

1539
01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:14,470
Observatory and the feds coming in and

1540
01:18:21,090 --> 01:18:18,460
and shutting it down do you think that

1541
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:21,100
all of these observatories around the

1542
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:22,810
world all these astronomers know each

1543
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:25,150
other they all communicate when they see

1544
01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:28,090
something whether it's some supernova or

1545
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:31,270
they see that they contact their their

1546
01:18:36,510 --> 01:18:34,510
their friends to confirm what they are

1547
01:18:38,790 --> 01:18:36,520
seeing lock in on this what do you think

1548
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:38,800
is this what it is is this a black hole

1549
01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:40,810
eating another black hole whatever right

1550
01:18:45,020 --> 01:18:43,150
do you think that there is the

1551
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:45,030
possibility that they were communicating

1552
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:49,210
about a fast radio bursts and what was

1553
01:18:54,510 --> 01:18:52,210
going down this week and maybe the feds

1554
01:18:56,730 --> 01:18:54,520
had to go in and sanitize this place and

1555
01:18:59,700 --> 01:18:56,740
then just use some crazy cover story and

1556
01:19:02,400 --> 01:18:59,710
that they went in and and removed any

1557
01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:02,410
evidence of any communication well

1558
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:04,750
here's the problem with that hypothesis

1559
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:06,730
there is absolutely

1560
01:19:14,750 --> 01:19:09,970
no indication of a threat of any kind

1561
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:14,760
the fast radio bursts last less than

1562
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:18,010
this is hard to believe they last less

1563
01:19:26,660 --> 01:19:23,170
than 1/2 of a second but the energy from

1564
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:26,670
these 3 billion light-years away is

1565
01:19:36,090 --> 01:19:31,350
equivalent to half a billion of our Suns

1566
01:19:37,979 --> 01:19:36,100
this is where they very first data as

1567
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:37,989
scientists just couldn't believe what

1568
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:40,870
they were looking at and there was one

1569
01:19:46,590 --> 01:19:43,690
paper that was presented about how a

1570
01:19:47,660 --> 01:19:46,600
fast radio bursts in less than half a

1571
01:19:50,729 --> 01:19:47,670
second

1572
01:19:54,110 --> 01:19:50,739
emitted the amount of energy of 500

1573
01:19:57,150 --> 01:19:54,120
million of our Suns and there was no

1574
01:19:59,370 --> 01:19:57,160
afterglow that's him just

1575
01:20:02,220 --> 01:19:59,380
incomprehensible right how could there

1576
01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:02,230
be any kind of an energy surge like that

1577
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:05,590
in half a second and no afterglow no

1578
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:08,970
heat signature nothing left over well

1579
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:11,710
depending upon what this advanced

1580
01:20:18,210 --> 01:20:14,940
technology is which is what caught

1581
01:20:21,630 --> 01:20:18,220
caught the attention of avi Logue and

1582
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:21,640
others that's why he put together this

1583
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:24,070
wonderful paper to read on the

1584
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:26,170
hypothesis that this could be the very

1585
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:30,840
first evidence of light speed technology

1586
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:34,239
operating in such a way that we expect

1587
01:20:38,850 --> 01:20:36,790
after glows we expect that that much

1588
01:20:41,820 --> 01:20:38,860
energy would take something so massive

1589
01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:41,830
to produce well it does take massive

1590
01:20:48,510 --> 01:20:45,760
amounts to produce but we're thinking in

1591
01:20:50,970 --> 01:20:48,520
terms of earth we're not thinking in

1592
01:20:54,270 --> 01:20:50,980
terms of what's out there and that's

1593
01:20:56,729 --> 01:20:54,280
what's so exciting about the fast radio

1594
01:20:59,970 --> 01:20:56,739
bursts research right now know

1595
01:21:02,970 --> 01:20:59,980
ultimately what do you think if you were

1596
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:02,980
gonna take a crack at this journalist

1597
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,150
friend of mine what what what why did

1598
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:08,800
they close down the National Solar

1599
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:15,310
Observatory well I think at this point

1600
01:21:22,260 --> 01:21:19,090
that we've heard pieces

1601
01:21:26,250 --> 01:21:22,270
we haven't nobody has told us the real

1602
01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:26,260
heart and that would be in the pattern

1603
01:21:32,940 --> 01:21:29,070
is the sheriff was deliberately left out

1604
01:21:35,010 --> 01:21:32,950
the FBI it was in charge rights in the

1605
01:21:38,090 --> 01:21:35,020
beginning and their jurisdiction would

1606
01:21:39,950 --> 01:21:38,100
be national security national security

1607
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:39,960
could involve

1608
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:44,050
international or it could be spies or

1609
01:21:51,210 --> 01:21:47,040
national or it could have to do with

1610
01:21:54,450 --> 01:21:51,220
some kind of theft as you pointed out

1611
01:21:56,940 --> 01:21:54,460
but the cept might be the coverage for

1612
01:22:00,240 --> 01:21:56,950
something like that more insidious story

1613
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:00,250
of equipment at the solar observatory

1614
01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:03,520
being hacked or used by an a foreign

1615
01:22:10,650 --> 01:22:06,460
country to monitor and watch white sands

1616
01:22:14,190 --> 01:22:10,660
and Holloman Air Force Base something

1617
01:22:16,590 --> 01:22:14,200
that has not been reported is my guess

1618
01:22:18,540 --> 01:22:16,600
is what we're going to learn and that it

1619
01:22:21,930 --> 01:22:18,550
may have to do with international

1620
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:21,940
sabotage or that bomb threat

1621
01:22:28,140 --> 01:22:25,090
those two emails that I said nothing

1622
01:22:31,110 --> 01:22:28,150
proved but they did come early on and

1623
01:22:33,660 --> 01:22:31,120
they came from two people independently

1624
01:22:36,150 --> 01:22:33,670
who had either had somebody living there

1625
01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:36,160
or knew people who were living there at

1626
01:22:41,820 --> 01:22:38,320
the solar observatory that's where those

1627
01:22:44,940 --> 01:22:41,830
two emails came including one about a

1628
01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:44,950
bomb threat so somewhere between bomb

1629
01:22:52,860 --> 01:22:49,840
threat and some international misuse

1630
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:52,870
perhaps of equipment that might tie into

1631
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:54,910
your story but would not be the bottom

1632
01:23:00,570 --> 01:22:58,090
line I do not think this is over yet I

1633
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:00,580
do not think we've heard the end of this

1634
01:23:06,900 --> 01:23:03,910
and it and if you took the whole big

1635
01:23:09,420 --> 01:23:06,910
enchilada of the last 12 days and you

1636
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:09,430
said what is the single most significant

1637
01:23:14,130 --> 01:23:12,130
thing I'm sorry I'm learning to juniper

1638
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:14,140
and Jennifer is really bad right now in

1639
01:23:20,820 --> 01:23:18,130
September it would be that a federal

1640
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:20,830
authority like the National Science

1641
01:23:28,290 --> 01:23:24,090
Foundation and aura in Washington DC

1642
01:23:31,530 --> 01:23:28,300
would not have been smarter about their

1643
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:31,540
very first press release to the media

1644
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:33,310
and to the war

1645
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:37,690
I know I know and if you are if you are

1646
01:23:42,510 --> 01:23:40,870
an employee up there let's say Linda

1647
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,520
Moulton Howes living in one of those

1648
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:45,280
houses with your husband and maybe even

1649
01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:48,250
a child and a dog right and they're

1650
01:23:50,940 --> 01:23:49,780
gonna come to you and say you got to

1651
01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:50,950
pack up and you got to leave this

1652
01:23:58,530 --> 01:23:53,880
afternoon you better have a good reason

1653
01:24:01,440 --> 01:23:58,540
federal agency or not and what Paul M

1654
01:24:03,660 --> 01:24:01,450
learned today that I talked about that

1655
01:24:06,270 --> 01:24:03,670
if somebody has been paying good money

1656
01:24:07,740 --> 01:24:06,280
that was supposed to be money high

1657
01:24:11,070 --> 01:24:07,750
enough that you're not going to argue

1658
01:24:15,540 --> 01:24:11,080
about signing a nondisclosure agreement

1659
01:24:18,930 --> 01:24:15,550
quote this is directly from Paul they

1660
01:24:21,950 --> 01:24:18,940
had signed a non-disclosure form and

1661
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:21,960
said they were compensated enough money

1662
01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:26,850
where they would not want to talk now

1663
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:31,870
what is behind doing that I don't know

1664
01:24:38,490 --> 01:24:33,790
and and this is the other thing that the

1665
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:38,500
bomb threat part or espionage I would

1666
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:41,770
expect and I and I've heard all of this

1667
01:24:46,980 --> 01:24:44,290
and so of you I would expect the ATF to

1668
01:24:49,620 --> 01:24:46,990
be involved if there's explosives I

1669
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:49,630
would expect the Department of Homeland

1670
01:24:55,980 --> 01:24:53,770
Security to be up there with spies and

1671
01:24:58,380 --> 01:24:55,990
espionage and computer hacking that

1672
01:25:00,270 --> 01:24:58,390
there would be not to say that the FBI

1673
01:25:02,670 --> 01:25:00,280
may not have the overall jurisdiction

1674
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:02,680
but you're going to bring in other if

1675
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:05,110
there's a bomb threat I don't want the

1676
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:07,570
FBI up there I want the ATF up there I

1677
01:25:12,690 --> 01:25:11,050
could be wrong but as a resident up

1678
01:25:14,790 --> 01:25:12,700
there I would want to know that this is

1679
01:25:16,850 --> 01:25:14,800
being handled correctly and it just

1680
01:25:21,810 --> 01:25:16,860
seems like it hasn't and that's the part

1681
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:21,820
the story doesn't wash yeah nothing yet

1682
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:25,450
has come into gel to focus and that's

1683
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:28,330
why this is not over and everybody

1684
01:25:35,220 --> 01:25:32,080
listening to Jimmy also do a stereo and

1685
01:25:36,690 --> 01:25:35,230
listen to earth files when I do I'm

1686
01:25:38,910 --> 01:25:36,700
going to be doing a report Wednesday

1687
01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:38,920
night on what else I have learned from

1688
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:41,380
some people who are doing some tramping

1689
01:25:46,330 --> 01:25:45,370
in the grass for me and that between you

1690
01:25:49,210 --> 01:25:46,340
me and

1691
01:25:51,820 --> 01:25:49,220
maybe a couple of others we're going to

1692
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:51,830
try to keep updating with the pressure

1693
01:25:57,730 --> 01:25:54,770
of fact what is truly one of the

1694
01:26:00,130 --> 01:25:57,740
strangest evolving two-week stories I

1695
01:26:01,780 --> 01:26:00,140
have ever encountered yeah no doubt no

1696
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:01,790
doubt let's let's take a break right

1697
01:26:06,310 --> 01:26:04,250
here and Linda when we come back if it's

1698
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:06,320
okay with you let's take a dance around

1699
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:09,290
some of your other research and we'll

1700
01:26:13,660 --> 01:26:11,330
see where we end up how's that sound

1701
01:26:15,070 --> 01:26:13,670
it's always fun when you're here thank

1702
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:15,080
you so much for taking the time tonight

1703
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:17,600
Linda on this very very busy week for

1704
01:26:21,700 --> 01:26:19,970
all of us our guest tonight is Linda

1705
01:26:23,650 --> 01:26:21,710
Moulton Howe I am your host Jimmy church

1706
01:26:27,580 --> 01:26:23,660
this is fade to black on the GameChanger

1707
01:26:30,980 --> 01:26:27,590
network and kg ra the planet we'll be